Poll: Item Bans

[Panther]

craftting is client side, i cant block or restrict crafting

[Panther]

By VIP based I mean that they are the only ones right now that can use whatever armor and weapons they want, including Developer sets, and as I stated in my previous argument requires lots of time to get to level 100, or spending real world money to buy Soul Shards or VIP. Also, I have noticed that ever since the dungeon entrance was blocked off, preventing the Lunatic Cultist, pillars, and Moon Lord from being available naturally, the only way to get fragments was through VIP's, who spawned pillars fairly often, whether to help other players get fragments, or for farming the mobs that spawned from said pillars. This means the only way to get them will be to buy them from other players who have plenty like VIP's or myself, who, for example, has acquired 668 Vortex Fragments.

you only need lvl 20 to pick a class and wear the set, thats only 5.4mil or just vote twice. thats not hard

[Coolncreamy]

I may have worded my response strangely. I meant that VIPs are the only people who can use all equipment created from fragments and luminite.

What I was saying overall, is that neither option is favorable. The first one restricts us to only one set for the whole game, unless we buy VIP. The second option will allow us to use more sets at a much later time that can be accelerated buy using real money, and the majority of the game will consist of players using old 1.2 items instead of the new, popular 1.3 gear that everyone wants. Since pillars cant spawn naturally anymore, players were too reliant on VIPs to spawn the pillars to acquire fragments. Now this has changed as no more pillars can be spawned, so players need to buy fragments from other players who have a lot, and since VIPs could spawn pillars whenever they wanted, many will likely have stacks of fragments in storage.

Don't take this as an attack against VIPs. I support the idea of players paying for extra stuff like their prefix, commands, and chat color. I'm saying they controlled when people could get fragments, they are the only players with complete freedom as to what weapons and armor they use, and they may have a major role in the economy now, as many may have large quantities of fragments. I salute the VIPs for letting us common folk get fragments.

I hope this clears up any confusion, but my original opinion still stands: we should be able to select one class at level twenty, and later be able to use the rest of the armor sets and weapons that were restricted by the class we chose.

[kolekelley2]

Also panther, the ancient cultist can no longer be spawned, so there is no longer a way to get fragments. This gives cheaters a winning point at one point.

[youssefbsh]

No there is just summon them in by /summon I do that

[Beaky]

I think what CoolNCreamy is saying makes sense.

His/her idea is at level 20, choose a class and you're restricted to that class' end-game armor until level 75 where ALL armor sets and ALL class weapons are open to you.
The VIP-based issues s/he mentions is that only VIPs have the freedom to switch between armor sets/weapons.
Regular players, however, have the hassle of using /login or /changeclass or otherwise be permanently restricted to one class and one armor set.
This can hinder PvP experiences where a player may want to use Solar Eruption + Phantasm, for example.

The solution is allowing Soul Shards to provide more options to all regular players as they rank up.

[Coolncreamy]

I think what CoolNCreamy is saying makes sense.

His/her idea is at level 20, choose a class and you're restricted to that class' end-game armor until level 75 where ALL armor sets and ALL class weapons are open to you.
The VIP-based issues s/he mentions is that only VIPs have the freedom to switch between armor sets/weapons.
Regular players, however, have the hassle of using /login or /changeclass or otherwise be permanently restricted to one class and one armor set.
This can hinder PvP experiences where a player may want to use Solar Eruption + Phantasm, for example.

The solution is allowing Soul Shards to provide more options to all regular players as they rank up.

Thanks for adding that clarification.

Not just pvp though. I.E. I tend to use mage weapons but also like Daybreak and Solar Eruption. Another thing with having second accounts and /changeclass is that I would like to keep my items on one character but still be able to use all sets without having to /changeclass and mash /rank up. Having multiple accounts/characters makes transferring items involve a third party, and characters have separate piggy banks/safes
Also I'm a he for future reference.

[Panther]

well, atm the 2nd option appears to be prefered so ill review it on the weekend.

as for the dungeon... ill undo that, i dont want there to be no way to obtain in game items...

as for how long it takes to get soul shards, the drop rate will probably go up once I've fine tuned some things. It is at its current rate for now so I can make sure there are no exploits, ect.

[Coolncreamy]

The quote messed a little bit up idk why.

Panther

well, atm the 2nd option appears to be prefered so ill review it on the weekend.

as for the dungeon... ill undo that, i dont want there to be no way to obtain in game items...

as for how long it takes to get soul shards, the drop rate will probably go up once I've fine tuned some things. It is at its current rate for now so I can make sure there are no exploits, ect.

I agree with the latter two statements, the only current way to get endgame items would be to buy them from other players, and the stock will run out eventually. Good choice on unblocking the dungeon. Ancient Manipulators are in high demand.

I still disagree with the second item ban option though, my opinion still stands. Many players will be forced to use 1.2 items and may go armorless for a while since it will take time to get those armors. Many of these armors aren't the greatest for our servers large invasions in the arena.
Neither are favorable, but the first or my suggestion is the lesser of two evils.

On a somewhat less related note, I have four suggestions/comments:
I don't think fragment wings should be restricted to class, vortex and stardust wings are around 2/3 the height of solar and nebula wings. (https://i.imgur.com/oHZCv2f.png)
Before I log on, I get flooded with spam messages saying "Solar wings are banned". I have seen many new players freak out. Can item ban messages be disabled   before we log on?
It might be a cool idea to have pillar-themed invasions in the arena.
Last and probably least, whenever I hold up a developer dye, such as Skiphs's Blood or Loki's Dye, I get messages saying i can't use them, but I can still use them normally and the messages stop. Are we supposed to be able to use developer dyes or not?

[Panther]

I don't think fragment wings should be restricted to class, vortex and stardust wings are around 2/3 the height of solar and nebula wings. (https://i.imgur.com/oHZCv2f.png)

Duly noted. I will keep this in mind when i review item bans....

Before I log on, I get flooded with spam messages saying "Solar wings are banned". I have seen many new players freak out. Can item ban messages be disabled   before we log on?

The yellow messages, yes ( and will stop next maint or restart )
The red one, no. Cant do anything about that. Sorry.

It might be a cool idea to have pillar-themed invasions in the arena.

I will be doing this, re-writing the invasion system in on my list of things to do....

Last and probably least, whenever I hold up a developer dye, such as Skiphs's Blood or Loki's Dye, I get messages saying i can't use them, but I can still use them normally and the messages stop. Are we supposed to be able to use developer dyes or not?

Do you mean select the item or wear the dye?

Can you explain this one more?