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My opinion how to improve the server
#1
I still have 2 opinions to improve the server.

opinion 1

Reset Map because is full of hou..private arenas
Community needs to share this server in Social Network,Terraria media,Youtube,because this server is abandoned for some players

opinion 2 (Wipe)

Reset.
Yea Reset the server.(Soul Shards,items,Score etc..)
Because all players are intoxicated
Useful spawn (Add Forniture Buffs and banner)
Feature/toturial signs Update, Add in front of the spawn where the players go, so pay more attention to them
Ban Loot bags from bosses/player to avoid loss of rarity
Need 1 moderator to take care of server

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+Bugs and Problem to solve
*How to solve this house defines problem?
*House define limit for level players, 1 house per 10 levels (good opinion from @Hauteclere)

Have to remove some bugs that the player are ruining server. Items duplication in chest

*What is this bug/glitch?
*I do not know, but I know some players are doing it.
"Time to use chest plugin. Give countdown to access chests to avoid dupe, corrupted chest and loss of items"

X Nerf or Ban Destroyer Boss
Because have 100 npcs, Server has limit for npcs summoned "90~120"
have more npcs being summoned it will not show up because it will be removed of this limit


@FabbyTizzi you're right.


Removed

Levels to use end game Items, Example: Level 100 to use All moon Lord item, Level 70 to use celestial items/armors
*Because need Level to use this weapons/armor?
*Is op, in Expertmode, Moon Lord items give too much SS because damage and dps


*Size limit permission for level players, Example:
Level 1:20x20 (good for cbank chests)
Level 20:40x40
Level 40:60x60
Level 80:80x80
Level 100:100x150 (for master pixel art).


(add plugin time use chest,This can prevent the bug/glitch.)old
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#2
On opinion 1, i dont think there should be a limit to gear and weapons, because people would like to pvp with others without having a disadvantage in gear.
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#3
This is what I like to see. I will now attempt to address all of it ahem...

(06-25-2017, 05:07 PM)Hanna Domingues Wrote: opinion 1

Levels to use end game Items, Example: Level 100 to use All moon Lord item, Level 70 to use celestial items/armors
*Because need Level to use this weapons/armor?
*Is op, in Expertmode, Moon Lord items give too much SS because damage and dps
  • Regarding the end game items/level requirements. While I don't think we should limit general use of items by level, ( at least not as high as level 70 and 100. 20 should be fine) I do think we should consider balancing PvP. Currently VIPs have a significant advantage over other players by using permabuffs. This especially infuriating with buffs that aren't meant to be used outside certain armor sets and PvE. It also allows for OP builds that allow for insane damage output at little to no sacrifice in survivability.
  • As For expert mode, I believe we should limit how many and how often bosses can be summoned. I feel I may be biased as I struggle to maintain my level advantage of 420 over other people flash farming destroyers. However knowing that the person with the current highest SS on the server agrees then it helps to solidify my position.
(06-25-2017, 05:07 PM)Hanna Domingues Wrote: Community needs to share this server in Social Network,Terraria media,Youtube,because this server is abandoned for some players

Have to remove some bugs that the player are ruining server. Items duplication in chest

*What is this bug/glitch?
*I do not know, but I know some players are doing it.
(add plugin time use chest,This can prevent the bug/glitch.)
  • The server will gain ground again if we make it more friendly to new player. Many players come and go without leaving spawn because they don't understand how or what they should be doing. An improved Tutorial area and spawn signs should help. Nothing too wordy but enough to get them interested and started.
  • Chest dupe glitch is an innate issue with Terraria and unfortunately can't be patched or fixed by @Panther. Your suggestion for a time limit is interesting though as it would make it more difficult to preform this glitch. However I believe would negatively affect players who play normally, specifically shop owners. Maybe a plugin that senses the glitch and kicks or deletes the duplicated item? Hopefully it can be a dressed.
(06-25-2017, 05:07 PM)Hanna Domingues Wrote: opinion 2 (Wipe)

Reset.
Yea Reset the server.(Soul Shards,items,Score etc..)
Because all players are intoxicated
Map is full of hous...Private arena
*How to solve this construction size problem?
*Size limit permission for level players, Example:
Level 1:20x20 (good for cbank chests)
Level 20:40x40
Level 40:60x60
Level 80:80x80
Level 100:100x150 (for master pixel art).

Useful spawn (Add Forniture Buffs and banner)
feature/toturial signs Update, Add in front of the spawn where the players go, so pay more attention to them
Ban Loot bags from bosses/player to avoid loss of rarity
Need 1 moderator to take care of server

@FabbyTizzi you're right.
  • I am wholeheartedly in favor of a complete SS, item, and score reset. Clean slates are always nice to have when an economy goes out of wack. I believe players should have fair warning though to reduce backlash.
  • As for housing I have been thinking about this for awhile. Limiting size of house regions by level just leads to 10 house regions max size all near each other and players may want to expand as they raise levels. Instead keep house size but limit amount of houses that can be defined. Perhaps 1 every 10 levels ending at 10 by level 100. This requires players to dedicate at least a little time to the server before simply defining every open area they see. It also deters multi account claiming unless some time is devoted to level extra account. Lastly, I think defines should simply delete themselves if the owners are offline the server for more than 1 month.
  • No point in banner buffs in spawn as it is a no mob zone however furniture buffs are easy enough to add.
  • Tutorial will be fixed after next map reset~
  • Regulating boss summoning will help this as well.
  • I'm not sure if you are asking for at least 1 more moderator or only 1 moderator but I think we are about due for a few more mods. If anyone is interested please submit an application to @Panther using This as a format.
And yes @FabbyTizzi is always right Cool

Thanks for the suggestions!
Its hard to be clean when you play in the dirt.
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#4
Maybe a small teleporter to a tutorial area would be nice rather than just signs, I think the problem is that people don't know that the signs are there, or they can't read it (they come from different cultural background where English is not their first language). So maybe a multilangual staff would be nice. However there should be a rule to keep that English is the most predominant language.

Overall I think hanna and runner are 100% right
[img=0x406]http://www.ec-fontaine-nanterre.ac-versailles.fr/IMG/jpg/partition_tableau_d_une_exposition.jpg[/img]  Les Tableux D'une exposition - Modest Mussorgsky
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#5
There will be a definitely going to be a warp to it. I'll think about teles.
Its hard to be clean when you play in the dirt.
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#6
(06-26-2017, 12:49 AM)Glenn Wrote: Maybe a small teleporter to a tutorial area would be nice rather than just signs, I think the problem is that people don't know that the signs are there, or they can't read it (they come from different cultural background where English is not their first language). So maybe a multilangual staff would be nice. However there should be a rule to keep that English is the most predominant language.

Overall I think hanna and runner are 100% right

If There is a help area, i would love to help build it. I remember wheni first came on the server i didnt know what to do and i kept dying. I asked someone people for items (nicely xd im not a begger) but ended up getting none. I Was new to terraria multiplayer that time and i didnt know about help signs, ssc, mods, etc. I ended up quiting the server in a day and joined shadow rain, where i was banned because i was (accused, i didnt do it) of griefing. I made a ban appeal and got back on but i lost intrest already, so i decided to go back to pts.
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#7
No, I don't think a complete reset is a good idea. For players that used real money to buy SS (but seriously, who did that) and then leveled up using those money, that will be literally "throw money out the window" for them.
I think what we need is a better privilege scale for items, commands and houses. As long as they can buy it and use it, let them do, because there is no reason to limit what people can possess. Everyone has different ways to play, some like PvE with bosses, some like PvP, others like wandering and collecting. There are just too many reasons that the economy will go out of wack again after a month, so limiting the rarity of items is pointless.
About SS, if you are against flash-farming, then should we ban all summoning items but add summoning commands with high cooldown time and level requirement? (I don't remember if summoning command now is VIP-only or 100+.)
About housing, 1 house per 10 levels is a nice idea. Other than that, shouldn't we have a map reset every 2-3 months, but it hasn't happened in ages. And if my memory is correct, weren't mods granted the right to remove abandoned houses?
And lastly, about the tutorial area, is there anyway to make it "interactive" (I guess no)? If no, then won't new players still have to read a ton of signs? The only upside I can think of is that they read a ton of it, but once at a time, and in an order.
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#8
(06-26-2017, 04:39 AM)Hauteclere Wrote: No, I don't think a complete reset is a good idea. For players that used real money to buy SS (but seriously, who did that) and then leveled up using those money, that will be literally "throw money out the window" for them.
I think what we need is a better privilege scale for items, commands and houses. As long as they can buy it and use it, let them do, because there is no reason to limit what people can possess. Everyone has different ways to play, some like PvE with bosses, some like PvP, others like wandering and collecting. There are just too many reasons that the economy will go out of wack again after a month, so limiting the rarity of items is pointless.
About SS, if you are against flash-farming, then should we ban all summoning items but add summoning commands with high cooldown time and level requirement? (I don't remember if summoning command now is VIP-only or 100+.)
About housing, 1 house per 10 levels is a nice idea. Other than that, shouldn't we have a map reset every 2-3 months, but it hasn't happened in ages. And if my memory is correct, weren't mods granted the right to remove abandoned houses?
And lastly, about the tutorial area, is there anyway to make it "interactive" (I guess no)? If no, then won't new players still have to read a ton of signs? The only upside I can think of is that they read a ton of it, but once at a time, and in an order.
I Agree. I Think that a map reset is enough. On The tutorial part, i think that we just have to rely on the players inteligence. You can do /minions for i think level 50+. any other type of Summoning (except npc) is only for VIP+. However another problem is that if panther has the time to do this or agrees with everything. For the tutorial, i think that the mods could do it themselves but for the reset and limitations Panther has to do it.
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#9
Only problem is not very many mods are on at a time
I discussed with @RunnerNS about the tutorial area
And philly is right, it's ultimately up to panther to decide

(also, A complete reset maybe a good thing since not very many people buy things here anyway, because if we allowed them to keep it (ss), it would throw the economy out of whack faster than it took the first time).
[img=0x406]http://www.ec-fontaine-nanterre.ac-versailles.fr/IMG/jpg/partition_tableau_d_une_exposition.jpg[/img]  Les Tableux D'une exposition - Modest Mussorgsky
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#10
(06-26-2017, 05:03 AM)Philly Wrote: I Agree. I Think that a map reset is enough. On The tutorial part, i think that we just have to rely on the players inteligence. You can do /minions for i think level 50+. any other type of Summoning (except npc) is only for VIP+. However another problem is that if panther has the time to do this or agrees with everything. For the tutorial, i think that the mods could do it themselves but for the reset and limitations Panther has to do it.

(06-26-2017, 06:09 AM)Glenn Wrote: Only problem is not very many mods are on at a time
I discussed with @RunnerNS about the tutorial area
And philly is right, it's ultimately up to panther to decide

(also, A complete reset maybe a good thing since not very many people buy things here anyway, because if we allowed them to keep it (ss), it would throw the economy out of whack faster than it took the first time).

Let's imagine when PTS resets everything: the only things that are abundant on this server are harpies and wyverns. Aside from those, you hardly encounter any mob, so the only ones with a clear advantage are ones with access to /summon. On an expert day, you can summon a boss, fight and die as much as you want, and grab a bunch of bags. There are still ways to rack up your inventory and still have some to spare to sell to others; the only difference from current situation is that with the dungeon blocked, this will be a pre-1.3 server.
Personally, I don't think limiting the rarity of any item will do any good. After a while, in a way or another, that disparity will come back. Just let people do what they want: people want to farm go to farm, people want to fight go to arena, people want to collect go around. And I don't see anything wrong with people having too much ss or item. If a new player wants to be like them, invest enough time in voting can staying on the server. As one who felt comfortable flying in molten armors when I first joined and is still voting everyday now, I think this system is fine and you will get what you want if you get your priority straight and invest enough effort.
About other big things like a total revamp, of course it's up to Panther, but as someone who have live here for quite a long time, we can discuss one thing or two and propose to Panther. He is a developer, not a policy maker so we cannot expect that he can make a perfect policy. He has already working hard on something big (I only heard some rumors), so maybe the best way to utilize it should be crafted by our admins and mods and even us.
And yeah, lately there is only Rini around (and less frequent, Malloy). I should apply to become a mod too xD
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