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Unfairly Warned. - shaman - 08-03-2014

Your In Game Name (IGN): Redder/Shaman

Description of Problem:

I have been on this server for a good time, and i respect all the people and their views, and would want everyone to do the same with me, as i think this is the major reason why people like the open and free server.
I have received 2 warnings of +2 points each, for objectively two things,
1. I posted incorrectly in a thread without proper format. ( I was new and did not know how to navigate or get through the forums, and was warned directly without any notice period, but well I was at fault so its okay.)

2. I posted 'Heil wonttakenameagain' in a thread in a sarcastic remark, which apparently was not understood nor taken in good stead.

The thing is, that first of all I would like to have a notice, before i get a warning about any posts of mine and a days time to correct them since my hours online are different from most people as i live in India.
And for second, many things that other people might find offensive might be a very frivolous thing to me (since i am culturally different in many aspects) and hence i might post things, which you might argue the integrity of, but they are in no way meant to offend anyone or any community and will be corrected whenever pointed out.

Other:
People in general who know me as on the server as Redder/Shaman would know I am a kind hearted jolly happy go lucky person, but I am absolutely conscious of the reputation, goodwill and image, and any such thing as rating me down by warnings brings that down by a certain degree. Which i find is very demeaning.

Why It Affects You:

Many things that other people might find offensive might be a very frivolous thing to me (since i am culturally different in many aspects, and, am not internationally exposed) and hence i might post things which you might argue the integrity of, but they are in no way meant to offend anyone or any community.

If you really want to warn me just PM me i will cordially respond, i do not require to be warned about anything twice, and i am a dutiful person. Many of the moderators will also agree that i have helped them in instances and am overall helping everyone on the server mostly.
I am slightly angry and an mostly disheartened by the fact that i have been warned twice without being given a notice, or time to react , which i have seen other people get.

If you have read this I thank you for your patience. And I would like to remind people that i might also get offended, in a similar manner, by things you might find frivolous, but i do give everyone the benefit that they all are not aware or might not realize that what they do is offensive, for example, cows are worshiped in my country as a Deity and a symbol of universal motherhood.
But I mostly take things that people do in good stead, the fun that people make of things also in good stead, and not get offended. Tolerance is a virtue admired by all.
Please try to do the same and at least notify people that its offensive, before going out lashing someone's reputation.

I am deeply saddened.

~~ Redder/Shaman


RE: Unfairly Warned. - AlertCow3 - 08-03-2014

Here is what you don't know and or realize: The warnings have a sorta 'expiration date' at which it goes away after a certain time. I gave you a warning for 2 points, and it expires TODAY, I would have made it longer if I had not known you enough to know that you normally don't do things like that. Also, you should think before you post something like that, considering that Hitler killed millions of people, was madly insane, etc. You should not put names like that considering that he still offends tons today after his death. It may be funny in your eyes, but not in others. Also, why would I Private Message you when I could just warn you with the command that they put in to warn people? The warning thing doesn't leave a scar on your reputation considering that it expires in less than 24 hours, and it is less time consuming and easier than typing out a whole entire private message.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - shaman - 08-03-2014

(08-03-2014, 08:45 AM)AlertCow3 Wrote: Here is what you don't know and or realize: The warnings have a sorta 'expiration date' at which it goes away after a certain time. I gave you a warning for 2 points, and it expires TODAY, I would have made it longer if I had not known you enough to know that you normally don't do things like that. Also, you should think before you post something like that, considering that Hitler killed millions of people, was madly insane, etc. You should not put names like that considering that he still offends tons today after his death. It may be funny in your eyes, but not in others. Also, why would I Private Message you when I could just warn you with the command that they put in to warn people? The warning thing doesn't leave a scar on your reputation considering that it expires in less than 24 hours, and it is less time consuming and easier than typing out a whole entire private message.

Dear AlertCow,
Somehow I beg to differ from you, since if what you say is true, it is surely not working with my account since i currently have a 40% warning and the earlier 20% warning is since a week back, which has evidently not expired. In addition to that the warning system may have a problem or something since i did not get 24 hours at all i logged in today morning to check the posts and saw your pm (thank you for making an effort to notify me) and the post i had made was not even 24 hours old. I should have gotten time to edit the post the next day when i logged in.
Plus second thing is, that the same happened when Zilophos gave me a warning, i immediately got the warning counter running (since the very next day i saw the post again) and the warning is still counting till date and has not expired. It was more than 2 weeks back.

(08-03-2014, 08:54 AM)shaman Wrote:
(08-03-2014, 08:45 AM)AlertCow3 Wrote: Here is what you don't know and or realize: The warnings have a sorta 'expiration date' at which it goes away after a certain time. I gave you a warning for 2 points, and it expires TODAY, I would have made it longer if I had not known you enough to know that you normally don't do things like that. Also, you should think before you post something like that, considering that Hitler killed millions of people, was madly insane, etc. You should not put names like that considering that he still offends tons today after his death. It may be funny in your eyes, but not in others. Also, why would I Private Message you when I could just warn you with the command that they put in to warn people? The warning thing doesn't leave a scar on your reputation considering that it expires in less than 24 hours, and it is less time consuming and easier than typing out a whole entire private message.

Dear AlertCow,
Somehow I beg to differ from you, since if what you say is true, it is surely not working with my account since i currently have a 40% warning and the earlier 20% warning is since a week back, which has evidently not expired. In addition to that the warning system may have a problem or something since i did not get 24 hours at all i logged in today morning to check the posts and saw your pm (thank you for making an effort to notify me) and the post i had made was not even 24 hours old. I should have gotten time to edit the post the next day when i logged in.
Plus second thing is, that the same happened when Zilophos gave me a warning, i immediately got the warning counter running (since the very next day i saw the post again) and the warning is still counting till date and has not expired. It was more than 2 weeks back.

And also i would like to add that Zilophos closed the thread after he warned me, making me unable to rectify the message in my post, or clarify anything.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - iAtlantis - 08-03-2014

(08-03-2014, 03:44 AM)shaman Wrote: Your In Game Name (IGN): Redder/Shaman

Offender's IGN: None

Description of Problem:

I have been on this server for a good time, and i respect all the people and their views, and would want everyone to do the same with me, as i think this is the major reason why people like the open and free server.
I have received 2 warnings of +2 points each, for objectively two things,
1. I posted incorrectly in a thread without proper format. ( I was new and did not know how to navigate or get through the forums, and was warned directly without any notice period, but well I was at fault so its okay.)

2. I posted 'Heil wonttakenameagain' in a thread in a sarcastic remark, which apparently was not understood nor taken in good stead.

The thing is, that first of all I would like to have a notice, before i get a warning about any posts of mine and a days time to correct them since my hours online are different from most people as i live in India.
And for second, many things that other people might find offensive might be a very frivolous thing to me (since i am culturally different in many aspects) and hence i might post things, which you might argue the integrity of, but they are in no way meant to offend anyone or any community and will be corrected whenever pointed out.

Other:
People in general who know me as on the server as Redder/Shaman would know I am a kind hearted jolly happy go lucky person, but I am absolutely conscious of the reputation, goodwill and image, and any such thing as rating me down by warnings brings that down by a certain degree. Which i find is very demeaning.

Why It Affects You:

Many things that other people might find offensive might be a very frivolous thing to me (since i am culturally different in many aspects, and, am not internationally exposed) and hence i might post things which you might argue the integrity of, but they are in no way meant to offend anyone or any community.

If you really want to warn me just PM me i will cordially respond, i do not require to be warned about anything twice, and i am a dutiful person. Many of the moderators will also agree that i have helped them in instances and am overall helping everyone on the server mostly.
I am slightly angry and an mostly disheartened by the fact that i have been warned twice without being given a notice, or time to react , which i have seen other people get.

If you have read this I thank you for your patience. And I would like to remind people that i might also get offended, in a similar manner, by things you might find frivolous, but i do give everyone the benefit that they all are not aware or might not realize that what they do is offensive, for example, cows are worshiped in my country as a Deity and a symbol of universal motherhood.
But I mostly take things that people do in good stead, the fun that people make of things also in good stead, and not get offended. Tolerance is a virtue admired by all.
Please try to do the same and at least notify people that its offensive, before going out lashing someone's reputation.

I am deeply saddened.

~~ Redder/Shaman

I think the answer is simple....Hitler may have not affected India as much as other countries, but that doesn't give you the right to joke around about him, when he mass murdered MILLIONS of people. For example, "Apartheid" took place in africa, but that does not mean the People of the US are laughing about it.... This WAS a fair warning....


RE: Unfairly Warned. - AlertCow3 - 08-03-2014

Since it has been over a day I took my warning off for you, but I don't want to touch Zilophos, that isn't my warning and I dunno how long he intended his to be on there.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - shaman - 08-03-2014

Thank you Alert.
I know nothing can be done about that but the problem is that he closed that thread and i couldn't edit it.
I just seem to be having a bad day today.

iAtlantis you don't know in which context i spoke so when i did, and monstrous atrocities are not done by one man they are done by humans to humans and have continued like today. In warlord ridden parts of Africa a child qualifies as a militia after eating a raw heart of another baby. Also wars have always produced deaths in a similar manner. I have not laughed, i made a sarcastic comment which i do not need to explain to you since you wouldn't probably understand, since you missed the context.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - iAtlantis - 08-03-2014

(08-03-2014, 01:22 PM)shaman Wrote: Monstrous atrocities are not done by one man

Who do you think was telling the soldiers what to do?


RE: Unfairly Warned. - Frost Monkey - 08-03-2014

World War II was the worst injustice to humanity that has ever occurred. It was a demon created by the Allies though. Many fail to realize this. They put an extremely harsh war reparation on Germany causing them to plunder into debt. The US tried to help by offering loans, but this only made it worse. The Allies created the environment that Hitler needed to come to power. They caused such a great deal of poverty and starvation that Hitler had the country in a prime psychological condition to take over and do whatever he wanted.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - shaman - 08-03-2014

As is said history is written by the victors. Any war is terrible, i totally agree as i have lost friends close as family to war. I am sensitive to the topic too. Just the post was not intended in the way it was received. It was in fact a jab at Hitler where i compared the regeneration of the world in Terraria crushing the aspiring constructors. Well i guess it got misinterpreted. I have apologized and will do so again.


RE: Unfairly Warned. - AlertCow3 - 08-03-2014

Don't worry about removing it, I removed it before it was closed.